Ok someone help me out here.
Is Valve getting major dicounts on hardware to match Sony and Microsoft?
Is Valve selling their hardware for a 60+ dollar loss to match Sony and Microsoft?
Are there developers that are going to focus on a single sku to match Sony and Microsoft?
Is Valve doing billions on R&D to compete with Sony and Microsoft?
Is Valve going to spend billions on advertising to compete with Sony and Microsoft?
Is Valve going to have dozens of high quality Steam machine exclusives to compete with Sony and Microsoft?
Are Valve's hardware engineers on par with Sonys?
I'm not saying that this isnt going to be a good product, im just not understanding how a prebuilt PC is going to outsell Playstation and XBox, Sony and Microsoft put alot of time/money/resources/talent/manhours into these things.
With PC gaming at the forefront of this next-generation era, the WiiU is the only console that can truly complement a PC gamer. The PS4 and XBO are now, more than ever, akin to a gaming PC: Nintendo trumps both in terms of offering PC gamers a gameplay experience that cannot be replicated on either next-gen console.
I'm getting a WiiU: I'm not so sure on a PS4 and XBO. Nintendo has and will always have a place in the games industry: without them to keep pressure on Sony and Microsoft, we would be faced by an oligopoly with less needs addressed to consumers, and more needs addressed to shareholders.
Nintendo admitted that they dont compete with Sony or Microsoft, they just kind of do their own thing and hope that their IPs are strong enough to carry that platform, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.
Sony and Microsoft give us the competition we need, PC is a bonus.
+Most powerful console
+Strong online network
+Incredible first party
+Good price point
+Vita remote play
+Much improved controller
+Full third party support
-No external HDD's
-Most multiplayer games are behind PS+ paywall
+Generational gap in power over previous Xbox
+Great online network
+Most multimedia functionality of any console
+System selling IP (Halo/Forza)
+Kinect has some cool features
+Full third party support
-Alot of people arent interested in Kinect
-More expensive than main competition
-Less powerful than main competition
-All multiplayer/multimedia functionality behind XBL paywall
+Great collection of classic IPs
+Fantastic first party
+Focus on games
-Lack of third party support
-Anti consumer policies
-Much weaker than PS4/Xbox On
I'll make a list of the Wii U's biggest problems in order.
1.Games-The Wii U had a decent launch lineup but then had a 10+ month drought of nothing, it's pretty obvious that Nintendo wasnt ready for HD development, which is completely unacceptable considering they had 8 years to figure out, their first party was also spread thin trying to dig the 3DS out of the hole that Nintendo put it in at launch.
Management completely failed here.
2.Price-The Wii U would have been great at 250 dollars, but it launched at 350 and wasnt even making a profit. The gamepad is a huge part of this, when Nintendo found out how much this system was going to cost they should have killed off the gamepad in favor of the 360 controller. The gamepad isnt a system seller, but Nintendo is to prideful and didnt want to make a console that was just like the previous gens, they wanted the gamepad to make it different (even though it doesnt). Even their first party barely utilizes it. I'm not saying that it isnt a cool controller (because it is) but it's to expensive. They could have also found different architectures or something to reduce the price of the hardware, even without the gamepad it would still be more expensive than the 360.
Management completely failed here, again this isnt the developers fault.
3.Features- Nintendo seemingly wants the Wii U to be a multimedia machine as well as a gaming console (Tvii is proof of this), but if they want to compete in that market they should have at least put a Blu Ray in it, they arent expensive but i think once again Nintendo is to proud to pay a license fee for Blu Ray. Their online network is also way behind PSN/XBL, they dont even have a unified account system.
Management fails again.
4.Messaging-Is it a gaming console? Is it a multimedia device? Is it a Wii successor? Is it a Wii accessory? If you dont follow gaming closely the Wii U might confuse you.
5.Marketing-Lack of marketing is very apparent, and the advertising i've seen isnt effective, they are trying to make it look like a Wii type console where the whole family is getting together and playing a party game or something, thats not what the Wii U's strength is though, they need to advertise games like Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3, etc etc.
6.Policies-Without a doubt the most anti-consumer of the big 3, they are the only one's that region lock, they are the only one's that dont have a proper unified account system, they are the only one's that dont offer price protection to retailers (thats why their games take years to drop in price instead of months).
Thankfully for Nintendo almost every big franchise in Japan is exclusive to the 3DS, they know how to make handhelds that Japan and children will want.
why not include a software emulator in these consoles? There are real decent ps1 and ps2 ones out there. It's a joke that in 2013 this is still a problem.
They have gaikai now, they could potentially stream every playstation game ever made to any device.
100,000 out of 4,000,000 is 2.5% of the total install base. In one week, in Japan only.
That's fairly good.@Sushiglutton said:
Go third party Nintendo for f* sake. You suck at making hardware, so don't do it. You are amazing at making games, make more of them.
Suck at making hardware that has amongst the lowest failure rates (the Gamecube could be thrown around and never broke) and actually runs games at 1080p? Nintendo going third party would bankrupt the company. They make a significant portion of their revenue from hardware sales. Going software-only, especially given how they design the majority of their software around the hardware, would be the dumbest business move in the history of gaming.
They are making money. They are selling games and consoles to people who want to play them. Are you scared of owning Nintendo hardware due to reprisal from peers?
Nintendo doesnt make any money off of the 3DS hardware and they lose money on the Wii U hardware , they also lose money on R&D and probably their online network too. That's why Nintendo posted their first loss in their history.