What was really funny was that Joel McHale obviously didn't know a damned thing about any of the games he was discussing with guests. I don't peg him as a gamer.
What's pathetic is that the majority of Neogaf liked Joel better than Geoff. Geoff was asking good questions to developers and being professional.
@Jag85 said:@crimsonman1245 said:
Atari was the biggest video game company in the world in the early 80's, yet look what happened to them. Sega was the biggest video game company in the world in the early 90's, yet look what happened to them. Just because you're on top of the world at any one point in time, that doesn't mean you will always be at the top. All it takes is a few mishaps along the way to change that. And exiting the hardware business, especially when you're the most profitable hardware manufacturer of them all, is one of the worst decisions you could ever make.
Nintendo's hardware is not profitable, the Wii U is losing 60 dollars a unit and the 3DS is only making its money back.
They could go without a 3rd party if they made more 1st party games. They need more teams to come out with more games. That way either way there would still be a good number of games flowing in. As it stands yes they need 3rd party.
They have plenty of first party devs, but they are trying to support to many platforms.
@GunSmith1_basic said:@Cranler said:@GunSmith1_basic said:
Your local stores? I had no trouble finding Wiiu, ps4, and xb1 consoles at their respective launches. Reports indicate that the ps4 is the best stocked launch console of the three
The wiiu started out with many reported sellouts as well. Again, these inital sales are virtually meaningless. The real test is Jan-Sept. I just think it's funny that so many people seem to think that the ps4 and xb1 have already outsold the wiiu when that is so far from the truth.
After the 2nd week the wiiu was easy to find in stores and online. PS 4 is still sold out everywhere.
The economy will hit all these console hard.
Sony isnt even giving its home country of Japan any PS4's until 3 months after launch because the demand is so high in NA/Europe.
Also watch some PS4 launch video's from Europe where there are thousands of people running over each other trying to get a PS4, then try to find some WIi U video's like that. I know you love Nintendo but they screwed up, Sony didnt.
@Jag85 said:@ReadingRainbow4 said:
I don't want nintendo dead, I'd really love a 3rd party Nintendo however.
Hardware lately has not been their strong suit, whereas we already know they can supply the software when they work at it. Unlike Sega, Nintendo actually has talent.
And just like Sega (and Atari before them, for that matter), Nintendo will lose much of its talent the moment they become a third-party developer... Considering what happened to their former rivals, it would be an absolutely terrible decision for them to go third-party.
I'm getting tired of hearing this myth, Nintendo is not Sega, Nintendo is the biggest and most well known video game company in the world by far, they have the most profitable IPs in the industry by far, they are not going to fall off the face of the earth if they stop making hardware. They might not make Wii/DS type money ever again, but they would never be in the situation they are in now either.
They would consistently be the most profitable publisher every year if they didnt have to spend money on R&D, Online networks, hardware losses, hardware advertisements, and third party exclusives.
imho it would be more effective for nintendo to get themselves into a position where they can carry their own console and handheld and 3rd party support would be a nice extra.
they competed on hardware and they lost. they dont have the resources to out muscle sony and MS.
even now 3rd parties continue to screw them over and its not due to any technical limitation....its just cant be bothered. EA releasing masseffect trilogy on the PC, 360 and PS3 but only ME3 on the wiiu for example? how does nintendo stop this? they cant....they dont dictate policy for 3rd parties.
so nintendo need to go shopping for more developers from all over the world imho. a good partnership with major japanese publishers wouldnt hurt either but 3rd party western games are a lost cause on nintendo platforms. they also need to expand the types of games they are making. they are very good at what they do.\and they do a lot, but they could still do more.
then look to becoming the defacto complimentary console. do something different but still appealing to a wide audience.
in saying that they shouldnt reject 3rd party support. just dont rely on it.
on the 3rd party front its so bad at the moment on nintendo platforms that i always wonder "whats the catch?". on the wii half of my games were 3rd party but all of them were exclusive. i would never buy a multiplat on a nintendo platform because i would expect to be burned if i did.
I agree with everything you said except the part about third parties screwing them over, it's Nintendo's job to make a platform that third party publishers want to invest in, they've historically failed at doing that. EA isnt doing this to be mean, if they thought they could make money off of Wii U they would make games for it.
Why does it matter what engine they're using? They don't make good games with it anyway.
Because that engine was capable of CGI quality graphics and Square Enix is one of the only non-western publishers willing to make use out of that kind of technology. If this is true then Square Enix will be pretty much all mobile within a few years. FF15 and KH3 will be their last big console games.
Keep in mind, this is Square Enix we are talking about, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Deus Ex, Tomb Raider, Thief, Hitman, all of these games will become mobile shovelware.
Thats kind of a big deal.
1.Video game review sites are funded almost entirely by the major video game publishers.
2.Video game reviews are often done in a controlled enviornment with Publisher PR guys standing 5 feet from the reviewer to assure him that any glitch or problem with the game will be fixed for the final build so there's no need to point it out in the review.
3.Reviewers have been fired for making reviews that publishers dont like.
4.Reviewers dont have time to properly play through an entire game with the amount of time they need, resulting in rushed games.
5.Many reviewers are reviewing genre's that they dont like and aren't any good at.
6.Trying to explain your enjoyment of a video game with a number is stupid.
7.Reviewers lump single player and multiplayer reviews together even though they are completely different.
8.Reviewers cant properly judge multiplayer because everyone's experience is different and they dont know if people will even play if the severs will be shut down 3 months from now.
9.Reviewers often only review one version of the game and then copy/paste the review to other platforms, ignoring the fact that they didnt want you to play those other versions.
10.Video games are extremely subjective.
11.There are fanboy reviewers who dont even need to be paid to give a certain franchise a high score.
....Yes reviews can be inconsistent.