@Grammaton-Cleric said:@MirkoS77 said:@Grammaton-Cleric said:
I actually came back in here for the purpose of sharing my thoughts and impressions on AO only to discover my character and posts once again being attacked .
So be it.
I can be a caustic prick but there are no innocents in here and the manner in which I opt to use rhetoric and prose, however vicious, is almost always without exception a direct response to somebody else's decision to insult or deride first.
But since we've arrived at a point where I'm the bad guy I'm going to remove myself from the equation for a while and see if this forum becomes a better place in my absence. I'm not saying I won't be back for certain but at the very least a protracted sabbatical seems called for.
Thanks to those who provided some kind words in my defense.
Really Gram, I meant no hard feelings but suppose that couldn't be avoided. Look, what I mean to say is that all in all I just think these things are not conducive to a friendly and easy going community. I would also not be surprised if some users are hesitant to post after seeing you post. It can be intimidating. I know that you never start on someone unless provoked, but really, these people should just be ignored. One or two personal slights should not bring the wrath of God down on their heads. Frankly, they're not even worth it.
Anyway, I suspect we are but hope we're not now at odds.
At this point it hardly matters.
The amount of shit thrown my way for simply refuting an argument or having the audacity to demand a bit of logic is asinine and as Reddest already pointed out, both of those quotes you cited were people clearly looking for a fight.
But I'm the dick for swinging back, right?
I love this place but I am done here because clearly, I no longer belong. Perhaps that is only fitting given the influx of new people coupled with the recent transition to a new format.
Regardless, my best to everybody, no hard feelings, and take care.
I won't be coming back.
Come on, the entire board wants you to stay. I'm looking at armchair gods as they trash Namoura's early works and I bet none of them can draw. Is there anything worse? That's the internet.
at least Snake and Max Payne acknowledged themselves early on. And it didn't stop gamers from liking them.
: "This isn't a training exercise. Our lives are riding on this. There are no heroes or heroines. If you lose, you're worm food."
: "Collecting evidence had gotten old a few hundred bullets back. I was already so far beyond the point of no return I couldn't remember what it had looked like when I had passed it." XD
But that's no morality. Morality in games is characters acknowledging that it's human beings they're killing with families and loved ones and friends and lives just like them. This is more of an issue with games that have you kill humans than zombies and monsters.
Well there are authors who make the entire games. George Kamitani is one and his works are quite impressive I have to say. If I like their line of work then I'd make sure to check their latest if I don't, I wouldn't. Some designers would be a great addition to any team, e.g. Shinji Mikami, Hideki Kamiya. Some really affect the quality of a series e.g. Final Fantasy and the departure of Sakaguchi.
@Grammaton-Cleric said:@MirkoS77 said:
I mean no disrespect here, but can we all lay the egos to rest please? It's getting really, really tiresome to continually see threads getting hijacked seemingly for no other reason than to stroke ego and in the attempt to maintain standing in other's eyes. Then inevitably comes the adoration of the groupies.
Enough. Perhaps a sticky should be made entitled "Gram vs. Gamespot".
If that's how people honestly feel then perhaps my own days here are numbered.
No need to foist my supposed ego on anyone.
No stay, we like you here. You're classy.
Awesome topic. Given the nature of video games, it's very hard to fix this issue as the game-play in some games is pure combat or combat based I should say. There'll always be an enemy and you'll always have to fight for reasons as "protecting your home." or "saving a loved one." As for none combat based games, a way to fix it is by evening out parts of game play as Uncharted. They could avoid involving gamers in massive blood baths against zero dimensional people of color by increasing the amount of platforming/puzzling and decreasing the shooting.
Since I brought up the issue of POC, I find Uncharted to be very offensive in that aspect. Nate's smugness and shift in personality only supports the racist narrative of the game. I can't believe Naughty Dog is a multi-national company. I don't mean to offend anyone here but I find Uncharted to reinforce a very racist narrative other than including some of the worst tropes as guy with British/foreign accent being the villain and people of color being thugs and pirates. The whole scene of invading that Eldorado like city in Uncharted 2 when we have movies like Avatar promoting otherwise was just embarrassing.
A score, if anything, means how good or bad the overall experience was. A game can be rehashed but can still be fun because of the story or cinematics, soundtrack..etc. The formula might still be addictive despite it being five or even ten years old. Not all games can provide that. Batman games are still very decent compared to a lot of games out there and the platforming parts are one of the best I've scene. They're brainy, make excellent use of the surroundings in every game. You feel as though they first designed the city and then designed levels. You wouldn't come across weird structures which screams you need to climb that or throw a grapple at that. It's a high quality game but it doesn't mean everyone has to enjoy it.
@bob_toeback said:@Lulu_Lulu said:
@ bob_toeback & Jacanuk. You'd be right, if it weren't for the fact that with Cutscenes, we're going backwards. Now If you said story I would agree most people need it to enjoy a game and it is a requirement for interactive entertainment. But cutscenes, nope ! Thats something YOU want/need, not the medium, it can do fine. Plus if player agency is not that important to you, why don't just watch movies, and let the reall gamers be?
lol, you act as if I'm the one making these games. I merely enjoy them (and movies for that matter). Mediums and definitions change... if they are ever stagnant to begin with.
Yeah but we;re meant to play them not watch them. It's about involving people in the story not excluding them.
It is sad. I was introduced to fighting games through arcades. I think it would be revived if those who start up an arcade business weren't looking for profit but building a community of gamers if that makes any sense. They should also order high quality games and not racers from the eighties and make arcades more adult oriented so it shouldn't be a place where bored clueless parents drop their kids and run off to do some shopping but rather a place for gamers and enthusiasts to meet.
Some people here need to learn to handle different opinion maturely. I wish to not see "you have the balls to come and type this" and "you're surrounded by GTA fans" type of comments in Games Discussion board as I believe it welcomes all opinions. I think such comments encourage cyber bullying. Thanks.
I wholeheartedly agree and I think the insane amount of cutscenes is a disease which is plaguing a lot of video games today. I said the Last of Us should NOT be named GOTY because it's a video game with gameplay made to compliment a story. We need the opposite. A story made to compliment games. A story doesn't have to be so complicated that you'd need to shove in cutscenes every five seconds just to be able to tell it. It doesn't have to be complicated to be great and leave an impact on gamers either. In fact, many of the games that left a great impression on gamers didn't have that many cutscenes. Narrative in games is being to reduced to cutscenes only when it was a combination of gameplay, sound, graphics and cutscenes.
"lol mobile is only about Farmville and stuff, it can't do AAA games [insert insult here]"
"Here's a port of XCOM: Enemy Unknown (clearly one of the best games from last year)"
"lol it's not AAA, [insert insult here]"
"Here's a quote from Firaxis (Alpha Centauri, Civ 3 through 5, and a few more notable games) saying that it is"
"BUT ITS NOT GTA V! [insert insult here]"
<3 Jacanuk, best poster ever #1
I'm sorry for the slight derail, this thread is now about the inevitable downfall of the gaming console as we know it.
Both of you are actually right. Reddest smart phones will eventually catch up to consoles but at the moment, no smart phone can play current, very recent current gen games because they're very large in size. But a reason why consoles still sell and a reason why I buy them, the main reason actually, is exclusives. Exclusives, especially for new studios, are more profitable when releasing through consoles than through none. Thanks to gameplay videos and forums everyone nowadays know about indie games released on steam and less known games. But they still don't sell as high as ones released through console makers.
Well I agree with both sides of the discussion. I believe manufacturers are trying to prolong this business because it's profitable. I'm not aware they made anything that could help game developers create great games. On the contrary, their consoles is what holding game developers back with the insane amount of storage next generation games require and the little storage next gen consoles offer. I do believe they set the standards for quality in games but I also see it as a way to control content of games.
Well it's hardware manufacturer's job to invest in anything that could improve video games and help developers make games as they intended without any limitations. Hardware makers are tying to come up with many things that could improve the game play, by introducing new ways of playing games as motion sensing or graphics to enable designers to go crazy with their backgrounds and characters or sound or any of the things that makes a video game. It's unconventional ways of playing video games that sets Sony, MS and Nintendo apart from PC gaming. Before you jump and say some managed to create a Kinect type of device and connected it to their computer, I doubt it's as user friendly and economic as motion sensing devices for games. This Kinect buzz is a natural step in Xbox's growth as a console.